Categories: DiscussionValheim

META – r/Valheim moderators should split “Building flair” into two separate flairs, which should represent “Building – survival” and “Building – creative”

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not gatekeeping anyone, nor do I like to segregate our community, in fact I'm gonna try explaining how current state of flairs is doing just that.

I like to keep flairs simple and broad (also a moderator myself on another subreddit), and I personally have no need for messing with flairs, but I feel like speaking for the others who may or may not realize we have a problem.

Terms used in this thread:

Vanilla – No mods. Game files are not modified during gameplay or building

Survival – Vanilla + No console. No use of mods nor console during gameplay or building

Creative – Console or Console + Mods. Use of mods and/or console during gameplay or building. Also knows as debug mode, console mode or "cheating".

Please use 'Building' for vanilla creations and 'Sandbox' for anything with devcommands/mods! Flair is now required on all posts.

However, we can't expect creative players to follow through with this. Players have a right to select Building flair if they are building, regardless of building mode used or the fact that Creative flair (former Sandbox flair) also exist. If fact, this is exactly what a lot of creative players do, they label their creative posts with Building flair.

  • Vast majority of players don't even know about this META guideline that Building flair should be reserved for survival builds.
  • Some of the new players don't know what stand alone Creative even flair means. For the new players, it's also confusing to see physics defining creative builds with Building flair. As recently mentioned, they would appreciate a bit more clarity. I could probably link hundreds of other users who jumped to assumption that many of creative builds were built in survival and all of them having Building flair.
  • Sometimes old players, simply downvote creative posts, because they have Building flair selected. I personally have a gripe with this behavior in particular, because sometimes it just so happens that creative posts get downvoted too much too early, robbing them from reaching hot tab for other players to see.
  • Players who think Building flair should belong exclusively to survival players are NOT few in numbers.
  • Even in cases where it's not about the flair, or not about misrepresent of build, and it is indeed about gatekeeping, having clear Building flairs should demotivate people from showing distain towards other players who don't share their playstyle.

If agreed upon, the best way of going about this, would be renaming existing Building flair into something like Building - survival, and creating new flair called something like Building - console or Building - creative. Later, it can be renamed to what ever devs decide when they implement this mode properly (as they said they in later development stages). Current Creative flair should be renamed back to Sandbox flair for general creative content outside of building.

I suggested to mods that creating sticky poll about this would be a good idea, so we can see how entire community feels about this (because I might be wrong), but didn't get response from them. They did silently rename "Sandbox" flair into "Creative", which I feel did make more players select this flair type for their creative builds compared to before.

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