DotA 2 is not fun anymore here’s why

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As a dota 2 player on and off, let's just say I am a returning player. The game is not fun anymore. And

I never complain how bad I am IG not because I am good but because I don't care.

By that means the same with my teammates and on the opposing side.

  1. Let's start with the new changes.

New changes is not noob friendly and I consider myself a noob player now. The last patch I played was "snapfire" and it was quite fun. They added loot on neutrals, that changes were drastic but cool.

But now changes are really drastic and it is not the dota I know since then.

I can argue that those changes put out the fun in it because overall dota 2 became "harder" specially on warding and as a support it's quite hard to help team the way I know back then (which is more fun than what it is now)

  1. Less casuals because it is a hard game

Do you know what makes moba awesome? The casuals. Trust me I can watch 2 noobs doing 1v1 and enjoy the whole fight than those pro players bickering and showing off that they are good bla bla..

As a gamer who plays a wide range of games I can defintely tell you that if casuals are not coming in. The games starting to rot it is not funny anymore those people I am playing with right now are those people yesterday.

OH and they are: toxic AF

  1. Toxic community makes the game more depressing than satisfying.

The reason I came back because my friends told me that dota 2 is more improved now when it comes to separating toxic players vs non-toxic ones. That's a good reason for me to play again because i believe ALL MOBA HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL REMOVING THOSE TOXIC PLAYES IG.

I myself sometimes become a toxic player no doubt but I can argue that most of us also had their phase and I believe it is OK! I will explain later my thoughts about that but first

We know that this is a competitive game and it boils down to: Who is the sport or not. And going back to what I have said: "I never complain how bad I am IG not because I am good but because I don't care.

By that means the same with my teammates and on the other side. " based on my experience: those people who play dota 2 or MOBA in general are: either ego driven (not sport) and game driven (sport).

Those ego-driven players: If winning displace their bad emotion to other players and if losing blaming their team.

Those people make matter worse because either way those people around them are being a victim of bad vibes coming from those players.

NOW IN THE DEFENSE OF TOXIC PLAYERS I could see a good reason why they are what they are. and that's :

4: No concede button

Let me give you a situation:

A player plays and the team is not winning and here these smurfs (or let's just say "better" dudes) bested you and yay! fun game! They win you try you pat your back for a job well done or better luck nextt time coz you are sport, accept your defeat but those "ego-driven" players

toyed them around not ending the game fast and you don't want to play anymore what's the purpose of trying right? and here we still not adding the bad mouths and I believe most of us agree that alot of times you will experience a verbal harassment while playing.

OK no concede button! but in dota 2 you have 2 option: To play but pisssed off or quit but suffer from bad behavior score.

Now you go for option 2: Imagine you become "bad behavior" player by accepting defeat from a foe that is really off-charts tell me how is that reasonable?

Now for option 1: Do you think you can play pissed off without displacing some of the bad vibes to the team/situation/etc. You now become a bad fruit as well.

The cycle goes on.

If there's a concede button: Players will not experiece more shit than they can handle. Egotistic players get their ego elated and defeated players retained some dignity there.

Cycle stops and we prune those who are needed to be pruned and not punish those people who do not deserve it.

I have been hearing those "Then you are a pessimistic piece of shit" kind of argument and that's why good players leave. By definition of good is those people who actually enjoy playing socially. "Casuals" if you prefer.

And YES you have a point I could easily go out there and pick another game to play and don't give a damn about it but that's not what I want to say and as a "good" player who happens to still believe in the devs and the game I still play dota 2 to check how are the game is doing. And based on my experience and opinion the game is not doing well.

And I will tell you that I am SEA player because I could anticipate those people who wants to shrug off these issue I presented by saying because your region sucks etc.

We all have our fair share of bad games and it is true for my region but good for you! You are not experiencing those problems and I don't want anybody to experience it as well and that's the reason I am explaining this to you guys.

I hope soon the game will bounce back to its former glory again. I know they are trying their best but for now I could say that dota 2 based on what I experience and my opinion as well it is not fun anymore.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/rqlbaz/dota_2_is_not_fun_anymore_heres_why/

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